Using the arm? (reff's)

A new movie.

What do you see?
What will you do when you were the reff?

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Advantage White for the Black obstruction as you lifted your arm over the white one to prevent him from getting the puck. Especially with the exaggerated elbow bend. Based on quality of image I can't tell if there was something before that.

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I would have to disagree with Duck there and say it could/should be:

- Advantage black since white plays the hand of black before the puck, which is the reason that black loses a bit of control and it gets messy
- If you overlook that then got to penalise black for swapping the stick to the right hand. Not sure if it is illegal (he has no glove on, as I recall that is the rule), but sorry, at a worlds in the time it takes to swap hands the puck is gone and you are left looking like a dodo.

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Its legal because he has 2 gloves on.
You can see it clear in the other discussion. a bleu and light green glove.

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is that illegal?
some NZ guys wore 2 gloves in canada in 2002.
rule change after that disallowed webbed gloves, changes since then have restricted glove colour.
protective glove on non-playing hand is fine.

i don't recall 2 gloves being banned.

can rules director correct me if i am wrong please.

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Its legal.
Like you can read in
11.3 players equipment
11.3.1........hand protection for the playing hand(s).........

and
14.1 rules off play
14.1.3 the stick may be held in either the left or right hand; chanching playing hands is allowed

and important for using a 2hand stick
14.1.4 A player may have 2 hands on the stick when not in possision of the puck.

and then its important to now.
14.1.1 A player is to be in possesion whilst the players stick is in contact with the puck.

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it doesnt matter if you have 2 gloves on, you can still switch hands.

...whether you SHOULD is another question, in this situation it didnt do a bit of good.

kiwis turned up with spurt gloves in 2002 and someone cried about it and the rules were changed to exclude webbing.

switching hands is mostly useful to give you better options to tackle on a given wall, depending on whats happening. in open play like this jols is right, its not such a great idea.

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I can't see where an Advantage Black should ever get called on this. If the early hit did occur, and the ref saw it, and it actually affected the play, then It should be equal puck. Just because Black got stick fouled doesn't give him the right to drop the elbow and the stick foul didn't force the elbow over and down. Both would be guilty of a foul and Black should get warned for dropping/throwing the elbow.

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OK, I couldn't tell whether he had a glove on his right hand or not, thought he didn't, hard to see in the vid.

Amc32 - I meant that it may not be legal since I thought that you must wear a protective glove on your playing hand, and two gloves if you switch hands. And I thought that he had no glove on.

Duck, not sure what you mean by 'dropping the elbow'? White hits blacks hand and therefore gets stick behind the puck and tries to pull it left. Black puts his arm (lefthanded) over his to take the puck forward and does this. Not sure where the foul is there (or is it later?).
I have been penalised in the past for gloving the puck when the cause was the defender hitting my hand causing the puck to bobble against my glove. Why penalise the black player when the intial foul from white caused the problems? Surely that leads to frustration in the players? As a ref I would pull it up, explain I am penalising the firsf foul and continue.

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As black "reaches" over watch how his elbow gets an exaggerated bend and (I missed this part before) see the white head snap back a bit. Black initiated contact. First viewing I just thought obstruction. Throwing or dropping the elbow on him. No matter what happened before that you can't let it go. I would toss him in the bin for that.

I am not questioning the stick foul as the quality is difficult for me to detect that. And I am not saying that there is a gloving or not.

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