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Old 12-09-08, 02:02 AM
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This Forum is a great place to learn things but im finding most of the tips (however great) are coming from guys. I would like to know peoples views on Female players.

These views would be things like...

A) Moves that girls can do BETTER than guys.

B) Training tips on power, speed, endurance and aggression.

C) Kit that works for girls - and the stuff we shouldn't go anywhere near.

D) Mixed hockey for girls vs girls only- most chicks dont have a choice, this is the only game you can train at week to week. But it is a lot different to the girls only game. Which do you prefer?
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Old 12-09-08, 02:37 AM
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hey soph

don't know about anyone else but i think girls seem to back tackle alot more than guys, i know that's one thing that drives quite a few people mad, having the puck nicked from your stick and seeing the swimming costume speed away from you!!
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Old 12-09-08, 07:26 PM
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I never play in girls vs girls games...except at a proper comp. There's only 3 or 4 women who constantly come along to hockey here. So I'm used to playing against men who enjoy smacking me around cos I'm a girl...but hey, I like the games so meh. But it means the games at Nationals are a lot different...I kinda prefer playing mixed.
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A) Moves that girls can do BETTER than guys.

none ;>

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A) Moves that girls can do BETTER than guys.

none ;>

i kid
I disagree (I know you kid, but still). I believe there are definitely things that girls do better than guys, but mostly they are at the beginning of the players career… at high levels guys are always going to be bigger stronger and faster on average than girls and there is little that can be done about it.

I have noticed that girls learn to play smart way earlier than guys do… by that I mean they play as a team, they look for the back pass, they back-pick, and they spend more time working on the fundamentals of good play within the first few months where guys can take over a year to master these basics.


This may just be a phenomenon of the local girls in DC, but there is definitely a pattern here.
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Sadly it is still guys doing most of the posting here. While I connect with my inner feminine side, as opposed to my outer feminine side, I thing uwhguy is right about the women picking up teamwork quicker, but I think they keep that advantage throughout their career. That mostly comes from big dumb guys that figure they can just plow through the dainty little girls (and anything or anyone else that gets in their way) so the gals adapt and look for help rather than get hammered, whereas the big dumb guys keep trying to go through places they shouldn't. I've played with women that could hold their own in any game where brut force isn't the dominant game plan and some that would do alright in those games as well. To say that men are bigger and faster or can throw farther means nothing when talking about the skills and who does what better. Execution is what counts and with this being a team game, except for Benson on the strike, that matters more than bigger and faster. Just look at a couple of the most dominant women backs over the last 15 years, Lena from Australia and Mel from Canada, they aren't anywhere near as big as they play. But they execute near flawlessly.

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I've played with women that could hold their own in any game where brut force isn't the dominant game plan and some that would do alright in those games as well. …I've played with women that could hold their own in any game where brut force isn't the dominant game plan and some that would do alright in those games as well.
I agree. There are some some women out there that are just as strong and powerful as any guy, but they fall outside of the bell-curve. I was referring to concepts that apply across the board to the majority of women players.

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To say that men are bigger and faster or can throw farther means nothing when talking about the skills and who does what better. Execution is what counts and with this being a team game, except for Benson on the strike, that matters more than bigger and faster.
This is where I disagree. I am a strong believer in finesse, skill and experience. Despite my reputation as being a bit of a hulk, I really try to work on my handling and intelligent play, even going as far as playing in 3-inch swim fins. When I am in a stick-battle, the fact my reach is long enough to extend past almost any player in my home club or that when I take the angle on an opponent having that extra strength that allows me to win the contest just that much more often, definitely makes a positive difference for me.
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lets hear some more girls.
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they're all too scared too. haha.

but seriously...womens hockey is slower than mens because there's not that many speedy players (here in aus anyway). There's a couple but it's usually wasted because the rest of their team can't keep up with them. It's kinda pointless having one person who's fast. And it's not that they are all slowwwwww slow but I don't think enough emphasis is put on the benefits of strength training and putting in the work so you can use the leaders, quattros, etc. etc. properly.

And the womens division is weaker because - one again - strength training isn't as high of a priority. I play against men all the time here so I'm used to being smacked around so when I go into a womens game I look like I'm a brute because I go into tackles harder than some other women do.

And that's all I have to say.

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Zoe, I think you live in a sheltered workshop up there in Queensland! Just ask any of the girls that were in the Aus team that went to Durban about how much strength and speed training they did and you might be surprised! I am shocked at your statement Zoe.
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