Underwater Hockey World Forums  

Go Back   Underwater Hockey World Forums > The Game > Underwater Hockey Formation and Tactics
Register Photos FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Underwater Hockey Formation and Tactics The Web Book on UWH Tactics


game analysed?

Underwater Hockey Formation and Tactics


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)   IP: 82.173.5.82
Old 10-01-08, 09:39 PM
Sven's Avatar
Sven Sven is offline
Moderator
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Netherlands / Tilburg
Posts: 1,109
Rep Power: 3
Sven is on a distinguished road
game analysed?

there someone has experience with the "dartfish"programma for tactic analysing of game moments such as you sometimes at sport programmes sees on television.

Where I take already many game moments and these look at analysed by looking to those and play it back etc and together look at it with the players. This s a step further. my association/club wants will buy this toprank sport programme.

my question is then also: who now a type programme like this? and what is you experience.
__________________
Try to understand. "By winning you can losses more then by loosing.

Last edited by Sven : 10-01-08 at 09:50 PM.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Reddit! Google Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)   IP: 66.121.19.142
Old 11-01-08, 04:38 AM
Duck's Avatar
Duck Duck is offline
Great White Shark
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: California
Posts: 500
Rep Power: 0
Duck is an unknown quantity at this point
Not sure about a program, but a DVD or Tape in a player will work too.
__________________
Just in case you weren't sure, it's official -- CMAS sucks.
Oh yeah, and now they're broke.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Reddit! Google Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)   IP: 82.173.5.82
Old 11-01-08, 05:12 AM
Sven's Avatar
Sven Sven is offline
Moderator
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Netherlands / Tilburg
Posts: 1,109
Rep Power: 3
Sven is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duck View Post
Not sure about a program, but a DVD or Tape in a player will work too.
That is how we do it now.

With the Dartfish programm you can copy inside the movie and let somebody see were he or she must be. Like you see sometime on TV with sporting program analysing. Or simply analyse how somebody swim (like the streamline)and turning after 1 lane.(and see how to improve it.) it is already in use by the fast swimmers like pieter vd hoogenband, the former opponent from ian thorpe.(aussie) And also by waterpolo to analyse the tactick.
__________________
Try to understand. "By winning you can losses more then by loosing.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Reddit! Google Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)   IP: 66.121.19.142
Old 11-01-08, 05:36 AM
Duck's Avatar
Duck Duck is offline
Great White Shark
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: California
Posts: 500
Rep Power: 0
Duck is an unknown quantity at this point
Okay, we call that the tele-strator over here. It's where you have a "pen" which doesn't write that you use on a board and a yellow line shows up on the screen. And when you are done with it you can easily clear it.
__________________
Just in case you weren't sure, it's official -- CMAS sucks.
Oh yeah, and now they're broke.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Reddit! Google Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)   IP: 82.173.5.82
Old 11-01-08, 05:50 AM
Sven's Avatar
Sven Sven is offline
Moderator
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Netherlands / Tilburg
Posts: 1,109
Rep Power: 3
Sven is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duck View Post
Okay, we call that the tele-strator over here. It's where you have a "pen" which doesn't write that you use on a board and a yellow line shows up on the screen. And when you are done with it you can easily clear it.

I mean like this
Video Coaching Software - Sports Science Examples

On the right side you see an example by a soccer game. Moving immage and lines.
__________________
Try to understand. "By winning you can losses more then by loosing.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Reddit! Google Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)   IP: 66.121.19.142
Old 11-01-08, 06:03 AM
Duck's Avatar
Duck Duck is offline
Great White Shark
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: California
Posts: 500
Rep Power: 0
Duck is an unknown quantity at this point
That's a little fancier than a telestrator
__________________
Just in case you weren't sure, it's official -- CMAS sucks.
Oh yeah, and now they're broke.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Reddit! Google Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)   IP: 82.173.5.82
Old 11-01-08, 06:09 AM
Sven's Avatar
Sven Sven is offline
Moderator
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Netherlands / Tilburg
Posts: 1,109
Rep Power: 3
Sven is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duck View Post
That's a little fancier than a telestrator
Yes and a little bit expensive.

The discussion yesterday inside my club was
1.Use the free one the swimmingcoach did get as topsport for handicapt sporters
2.Get a new one and have the licence off the program.

The first reaction was to do option 1. Only there was the licence part. and in our club we want every program to be legal and not a copy. So the opinian shifted to the expensive option.
__________________
Try to understand. "By winning you can losses more then by loosing.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Reddit! Google Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)   IP: 210.54.213.48
Old 11-01-08, 06:49 AM
atapene's Avatar
atapene atapene is offline
Moderator
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: auckland, new zealand
Posts: 780
Rep Power: 2
atapene will become famous soon enough
all the big team sports such as football, rugby etc now use this kind of software to analyse possession, passes, etc. it takes time to analyse a game but once done you can call up every time a given player has the puck and what they do, for instance, or look at all the goals scored on the left side of the pool or whatever.

yes, its very expensive... and no i havent heard of anyone managing to use it for hockey, though many people (most obviously the french) make their own manual notes of game events and tactics for analysis later.
__________________
it's more polite on the grating than on the subs bench
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Reddit! Google Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)   IP: 82.173.5.82
Old 12-01-08, 08:01 PM
Sven's Avatar
Sven Sven is offline
Moderator
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Netherlands / Tilburg
Posts: 1,109
Rep Power: 3
Sven is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by atapene View Post
all the big team sports such as football, rugby etc now use this kind of software to analyse possession, passes, etc. it takes time to analyse a game but once done you can call up every time a given player has the puck and what they do, for instance, or look at all the goals scored on the left side of the pool or whatever.

yes, its very expensive... and no i havent heard of anyone managing to use it for hockey, though many people (most obviously the french) make their own manual notes of game events and tactics for analysis later.
No in the uwh world i never heard it on this level. But in the waterpolo top-rank and the fast swimmers its normal.(even in lower levels) From the fast swim section we did get in contact with that program.
__________________
Try to understand. "By winning you can losses more then by loosing.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Reddit! Google Bookmark this Post!Stumble this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT +11. The time now is 05:09 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.0.0
© Chumba 2007

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31