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Old 17-08-07, 04:29 AM
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You notice Sven in Benson's drawing the puck ends up in the goal? In your vid clip, yes you got past 5 defenders... but then one of them ended up with the puck, now they have possession with 6 players facing toward your goal, and you and one of your other wings (at least) are out of the play due to your position (behind the puck, and behind their support players AND on the surface). Maybe just my opinion, but that is not a good example of something to want to do on the strike. Maybe if you had had a teammate end up with the puck, or been able to get the puck to a place in the pool where the other team was not in such good position for a counter attack, it could be a successful example, but just running through a few opponents and giving the puck to them shows nothing.

Or to look at it another way... had you been able to hold onto the puck when you lost it... turn back around, move around the 6th defender you would have scored and it would have looked surprisingly similar to Benson's drawing... so that's why so many turns... a few less turns and he may have lost the puck for nothing.

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Old 17-08-07, 06:03 AM
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You notice Sven in Benson's drawing the puck ends up in the goal? In your vid clip, yes you got past 5 defenders... but then one of them ended up with the puck, now they have possession with 6 players
On this way a did pass 5 players. But in Bensons way. Every player he get passed. Can come back between him and the gool because off those many turns.
SO he can only hope to get nearby the gool. Its eassy to make a drawing were i get past all the players , and not only 5 off them Then its a gool to...


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facing toward your goal, and you and one of your other wings (at least) are out of the play due to your position (behind the puck, and behind their support players AND on the surface). Maybe just my opinion, but that is not a good example of something to want to do on the strike. Maybe if you had had a teammate end up with the puck, or been able to get the puck to a place in the pool where the other team was not in such good position for a counter attack, it could be a successful example,
They did. The opponsition player who did get the puck lost it also...etc.etc.
And the pressure was on the defending opponent.


(same movie only 5 seconds longer.)
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Old 17-08-07, 09:16 AM
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So I counted and came up with 4. the first two that you split because their gal couldn't get a pass off or the guy just stuffed it back into you. Then 2 more as you came further up the middle with the gal that only got within an arm's length of the bottom. But I'll give you 4 since her stick did touch down. The fifth guy swam with you and knocked the puck away to the 4th guy that stayed with you so you never got by him.

Might be worth trying in that short pool but if you were playing in more than 20 meters against people who are down you'd just get it peeled off and then would watch them take it the other way.
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the way you just swam forward, you allowed opposition players to drop in behind you - now you can't turn; and with the way your arm is our your very vulnerable to having the puck swiped off your bat

but that doesn't matter because you got past 5 people on one strike

you are now my hero
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Sven, you did indeed pass by five people, although I think this is pretty rare. I don't think it would ever happen in hoofdklasse (dutch first division).

Although I wouldn't consider it to be the best strike strategy, the fact is that he past five people and brought the puck close to the goal. This does create a great opportunity.

If the wings now close of the side and the backs put pressure in simply regaining the puck and flicking it back forward, the goal can be scored in a number of seconds.
When the opponent takes the puck in the end, he still needs to turn. If the center back follows closely as he should do, he can immediately flick it back to the forward, keeping the momentum going.

As long as the puck ends up in the goal, it's an effective technique
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come on todd, whats your special swimming technique that lets you swim forward in a way that prevents opposition dropping behind you?

plus, its a strike. the whole concept of a strike is territory with momentum. turning round is pretty much mentally retarded.

sven did very well but his team-mates needed to be in close support to take advantage of the ground he gained, surely.
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Hey Alex, I think the message in that particular strike from the Dutch was that they were planning and expectin to score off the strike.
So plan to win or not to win the strike, and plan to score.
Have a team plan and try it?
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liam - from what i saw his team mates didn't know what was going on; so they didn't push up behind him to close off any gap

you can't STOP players from dropping in behind you when swimming, i didn't mean that - just if your team mates knew what you were going to do they could fill in that space behind you before the opposition gets the opportunity

if that makes sense ;\
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Why so much turns? Its simpler just to swim straight forwards like the movie shows.
Iff you count you see that i swimm past 5 opponent players...
Those are not turns, those are puck movements you silly!!!
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liam - from what i saw his team mates didn't know what was going on; so they didn't push up behind him to close off any gap

you can't STOP players from dropping in behind you when swimming, i didn't mean that - just if your team mates knew what you were going to do they could fill in that space behind you before the opposition gets the opportunity

if that makes sense ;\
Maybe. there was no way out from the viewingpoint at that moment. Iff you look to the beginning. i was not the first by the puck with the KO. but steall/intersepted the puck when it was passed to the other player. and at that moment there was no turning possible anymore. I was between 2 opponents.. So then you can pass the puck backwards and still have 6 opponents between the puck and the gool. Or swim forwards and pass as much players as possible. and make the distance to the gool as minimal as possible. And keep the pressure on the opponent.

So what will you do? pass it back and still have 6 opponents between you and the gool. Or simpley keep swimming.
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