Free pucks

I now that thats not the point. But we disagree to what point the fast moving part begins.
You think it must be at the 3 meter spot to move sideways immediately.
I think the distance must be smaller to make it effective. If the wings are left 3 meter from each other there is to much time for the defending wing player to react when the puck is flickt to the side. And then he/she can block it more easely.

So i made a scematic with you(number 2) closing in faster then your wings.
Its important to make the distance closer then the 3 meters. so iff you come faster the only thing that will happen is that the puck it flickt faster to the side.

Like the first scematic you can already see the green wings swim faster then the mid. SO its really no problem as you swim faster. if you has swimm 1,5 meter the offincive team(green) the mid has swim 0,5 meter.(it can be done even when the mid is not swimming at al.) Just out off reach for you to get the puck and the wings also has swimm 1,2 meter. And your wings because like you placed on your drawing, they has swimm i think a 0,5 meter. On that point the mid flicks the puck. TO bad for you. Out off your reach and so your out the game.

On that point the offending team only has to chanche a little bit off its direction, so he can swimm already when flicks to full speed. A turn cost more time so your wings are left behind.(out of the game.) your number 4 turns at the same time. And like you see after 3,5 meter he can be close to the out-break wing. But come near him does not mean automaticly that you have the puck. Like i said before on the left wing we use a left handed player so the player is between you and the puck. so the race goes on.


These scamatic is made on a scale of 1-10 for getting a real picture. and the distance is easy to see.

Keep in mind.
-How fast you are. Nobody swimms faster then a flickt puck.
-The distance i lett the puck been flickt on the scematic is 3,5 meter. Most off my players can flick much more distance.
-A small direction chanche cost only a fraction off a second of time. its like swimming i one direction. And turning cost time. So the turning wing defender will be to late to intersept the recieving wing player.
_ the recieving wing player swims normal speed and when i sees the puck flicks he turns to full speed.(at the same times the opponents starts turning)
-THe number 4 from your team will turn at the same time as reaction of the flick. That cost him the same time. and can be when swimming the same speed as the out-break offencive wing come near him after 3,5 meter. At that time you can no longer speak about a free puck but then you speak about a break-out player. and its to the defenders again to react.

Why not its not a silly tacticks the only thing we disagree about is when going to the side/wings.

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No look to the 1-10 scale scematic. You see that the ofencive players only has to chanch a little bit off directions. But the defending player must make a almost compleet turn.

And who are you calling compleet morons?

Lets say against who we did try it and won the free puck all 14 times.
Its was a former top-rank team with 4 selection members in it
(at that time the dutch were europian champs!)
So my second senior team did use it effecly against a former top rank team.
Not bad for the lowest team at that time in dutch competition.....

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why would it take so long for the fullback to swim across and cut it off? surely he wouldn't sit in the same spot the whole time all that is going on, then when a breakaway is made "oh, i better swim now!"...

as he see's you sending your pass out wide, he sweeps to cut you off...

and before he should even be sweeping the on-half should have already swept to cut you off, and if you try to curl in either situation the defending teams winger will be behind you to steal

And what about this move

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nah i think he'd just sit and watch, i know i would

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DUCK: Don't go that route Sven. Just accept that your drawing and the reactions of the defenders are just as silly as BFBs drive to the goal.

SVEN:Why not its not a silly tacticks the only thing we disagree about is when going to the side/wings.



And back to Duck
I'm not even talking about the timing. I refer to the lame placement of an inept defense. A team with half a brain between them would still know to cover the outside.

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In your diagram they both turn almost exactly 45 degrees.

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At this point in time.
But ater that, the offencive can swim straight ahead and the defencive player can not. he must turn more before swimming in the same direction.
And the offencive player/wing has the puck on his left side. so you can not take iit at that time from him.

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Really nuts!


Like i told! that diagram is made on scale. In your part you draw a stick from more then 1 meter long and a arm that is more then 2 meter long. In real an standard arm will be 75cm.(sometimes shorter.) from shouder to fingertip and a stick is 30cm. Thats 1 meter and not 3 meter like you did.

Like i did put in the explanation. The puck is flicks outside off reach from the defenders. And pickt up when going to the left by a left handed player. SO there is also a player between you and the puck that swimms very fast at the time you are still turning.

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Like you can see. On the scematic/drawing and explanation the back if he reacts. It will be at the same time as his number 4 and 1. Not before the puck is flickt. He/she does not now before that point where the puck is going to.(it can be to the left wing, to the right wing or forwards) At that time its simple to see how far a player can swim before he can be with him.

the point B, i have on the drawing is put at the same distance off what the outbreak player swims. And is the first point theoretic when he/she can be intersept by number 6. If number #6 swim to point A he/she still has to swim 6 meter, were the outbreak player at full speed can swimm to that point in 3,5 meter. SO at that point there can be no interseption from the number 6. Only by number 4.

And yes iff the outbreak player is not intersept by the number 4 he/she can now number 4 is going after him to steal when he/she is blockt by number 6. But at that time we do not speak anymore about an free puck but by an out-break. the free puck is already won at that time. And when number 4 steals the puck when the outbreak players is blockt by number 6. he will have to try not to lose it to number2 green that follows his own break out player.

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