CanAm UNI2 - Prototype #2 Released...

Hello Canam Stick
I orderd 1 uni2. Now my question. Is this puck usefull by a pool were are use tiles with antiskid profile. Pucks like the guelph can not be used on those tiles.

Next year we have those tiles in our temperary pool so we hope the Dutchy,s and uni2 pucks are good for those tiles.

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Hi Sven,

To answer your question, the Uni2 will be the best puck for the anti-skid/rough bottom. It will also work very well on large shinny tiles. The dutchy may not work well on the anti-skid due to the fact the soft outer plastic is close to the pool bottom, it was meant for larger, superfast tiles. In your case I would order the Uni2's.

Steve

I picked up a couple of the UNI2 at US Nationals to bring them home. We played it last night on our less smooth pool, I am not sure what the bottom is made of, but it feels like a smooth concrete, maybe a gunite. Point being on the rougher pool bottom it was fantastic, one of (if not) the best we have played at that pool. We have been playing with one of Nacamura's SuperSlideyPucks and although the UNI2 doesn't have the grip that the SSP does, the UNI2 slides equally well, lofts nicely, and with the minimal urethane at the corners it transitions from flight to slide very very well. Everyone seemed to like it alot, even the same people that hated this puck at nationals on the tile bottom really liked it on the rougher bottom.

In summary- on rougher bottoms, the UNI2 seems to be a great puck, in smooth / tile bottoms- I am not a fan, I much prefer a Sims or Nacamura's SSP (modified Oreo)

Nice to read.
I'm still waiting on my Uni2 pucks. They are already a weak in custom survice in netherlands. I hope that they sent them soon to me.

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Here is a picture of the brass slider version of the Uni2...

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so after being disappointed with the grip of the UNI2, I modified it, adding a control band to it, similar to the Oreo Puck. The picture (from left to right) is an SSP (Nacamura's slider Oreo), followed by the modified UNI2 in the middle, and an unmodified UNI2 on the right.


follow up report- we attempted to play the modified UNI2 tonight on the 1inch tile bottom of GMU, although we loved the significantly improved control, it would not settle and bobbled badly. To be completely honest, I was surprised, when compared to the Nacamura Oreo, it is nearly identical. The flat part of the sliders are nearly identical in size, the diameter/height are very close as is the corner bevel, the only noticeable difference is the weight. The UNI2 1.09kg, the SSP-Oreo 1.18kg. I don't know what how much different the shape/profile of the core is and can only guess if that is making the difference or not, but when compared the the SSP, the UNI2 is much less stable and has less control. With my control band modification, the control problem is fixed and it's has great control of loft and shot placement but still will not settle on the tile bottom. I still like it on the rougher gunite bottom.

One thing I noticed about the sliders I wanted to ask about, both of the UNI2's and the Dutchy have dished sliders, its not significant but they are dished, what is the purpose of this? I am wondering if with some wear (flatten the slider) if it will be better on tile.

Also, how heavy are the brass sliders? If they are reasonably heavy I would like to get them and see how much that helps, I figure it would be good for the gunite pool anyway.

The brass sliders will add 6oz of more weight to the puck...and I am actually adding more lead to the puck to bring the weight up to 1.25kg upon final testing at the US Nationals. The control issue is related to the user, as most high level players have not experienced control issues with shooting this puck. Settling issues will always be there when you have an extremely slippery surface that the puck slides on. There is way less friction than most pucks so it has a hard time to settle flat. The additional weight will be he only modification to this Uni2 design for CanAm. Good luck with your testing!.

Steve

Steve, I don't know what the purpose of dishing the sliders was, or even if dishing them was intentional or not, but since both of the UNI2's have it, I am guessing it was designed into them. The sliders were dished in the middle of the flat by about 0.2mm causing all the weight bearing surface to be along the perimeter. It appears to have been the root cause of the bobbling, and explains why we didn't see the problem on the gunite bottom, no tile edges to catch on. So, I simply ground the dish out of the sliders and voila the puck doesn't bobble anymore. With the flattened sliders and the control band, the puck is now "playable" -per the best player on our team, although he would still like to see it heavier. This really didn't effect the edge bevel at all.

As far as speed goes, I compared them some by pushing along the bottom, no spin. The modified UNI2 is now equal to the SSP (Nacamura's Oreo), the unmodified one was consistently bobbling on the tile and was always shorter by a 6 inches on a 2 foot slide by the other 2.

Yeah, this has been a manufacturing issue with all my slider style pucks. I usually wears in the slider in a few games etc. Depending on the bottom is how fast it may take. The bobbling issue comes from what you mentioned until worn in a bit, if there is no drag it's like playing on an ice rink!

Steveo

that's good to hear, I realized that all it really needed was some good wearing in to flatten the sliders out. But on a tile surface that would take forever, so I accelerated the process some. Worth being aware of as its such an easy fix to make the puck substantially better, thanks for the comments, I can't wait to try the heavier version of the puck and would like to get a set of the brass sliders to compare the heavier weight.