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Old 03-02-08, 09:15 PM
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The UW Games 135 fins from leader are completely coated in rubber, but when I asked how long the blade was the response I got back was "about 55 cm", I think that probably puts them even longer than the quattro's
Cheers. The games 2006s are much shorter than that. I'll get Kerian to ask if they'll make some shorter 135s then.
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Old 04-02-08, 08:38 PM
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Cheers. The games 2006s are much shorter than that. I'll get Kerian to ask if they'll make some shorter 135s then.
I think i stay by quatro fins. I really like the way they swim and fits on my feet. I do swim sometimes with "mono"fins (made from fiber) but really dont like it. And even tryed single fiber fins. But also did not like them.
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Old 17-02-08, 12:09 AM
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Design end? Are you Mad???? Ala's are a shabby design that's 20 years old, the only reason anybody thinks they're any good at all is because they're the only fin in the last 20 years made of rubber that was designed to go fast. Before they realised that all divers are fat and slow and only want to wander around the bottom for no energy expenditure whatsoever... One day fins designed explicitly for hockey will make us all realise how shabby the humble Ala has always been. sigh...

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Hmmm, strange... I found ALA to be moderately fast fin at best, and its not their main feature at all. I doubt they were ever designed for scuba, skin diving is more likely. Manuverabillity is the prominent factor, and ala's have very good start acceleration in the first two-three kicks, but lacks the stiffness - material hardyness - when it comes to full-end speed. Also the design of the foot is, at leats in my case, one of the better ones. It connects good with my feet, though far from perfect. Ala's beeing all-rubber fins are very friendly towards other players. Having said that, there is a room for improvement for sure. But the main design features of ala's, in my view, are a must. I know that ala's are 20++ year old design, but well thought over. The fact is, that ala's are the mainstream fins in UWH and UWR.

I personally think that carbon, fiberglass or vitroplast fins are a fetish, at least the way they are beeing used in todays designs. They tend to have just one prominent factor depending for their use - Specific kick performance, that in UWH is all but specific, throwing away with the rest of the good factors in fin design. Who knows, maybe at some point in the future, our decendants will use monofin design for UWH play. The way that the play is progressing, I wouldnt just throw away this possibillity.

But hey, I've been known here to have some "strange" ideas about UWH, now havent I?

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Old 21-02-08, 08:26 AM
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Who knows, maybe at some point in the future, our decendants will use monofin design for UWH play. The way that the play is progressing, I wouldnt just throw away this possibillity.
True, in a 4 on 4 game in 3+ meter depth I sure could make use of a mono-fin.
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Old 21-02-08, 05:10 PM
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Amongst other things I'm developing right now, I'm also thinking about making a special monofin for uwh. It might be a powerful tool for one of the fronts even on 6vs6, specially when it comes to >2.5meter deeps, provided that player wearing them, has an extensive training with experts on uw finnswimming. Luckily we have one expert in our town. Monofins are all about swimming techniques....

Succesfull aplication of such monofin, depends primarrily on the capabillity to outrun the backs, even with backs having the advantage of accelleration becouse of diving down. This has never been tested before, at least not under the correct enviroment, becouse noone has ever made a monofin for uwh. The normal monofin in uwh play is even worse hazard, than players having knives in their hands! The downpart is, that player wearing monofin will have the disadvantage in normal play.

My other projects are my new, almost finnished referee signaling system, producing uwh fins, special hats for uwh and mass produced standardised gloves. All in this order, will hopefully see the daylight, sooner than later.

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Hate to be a naysayer, but as a monofinner I have to say they have no place in hockey. They are for straight lines only, no matter how you make them. The simple fact is that you cannot turn quickly with your legs together, so even if you make the monofin smaller than normal fins, you'd still be at such a disadvantage in general play that you'd be a liability. Even an awesome piece of design like the lunocet wouldn't get around this. I suspect that those wouldn't be legal though
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Yep, thats the downpart... but I think its still worth a try. One player in the team wearing them might prove more worth, than trouble. Then again it might be just a disadvantage and nothing else..., also I had in mind only a monofin for short distances, re-made to be without dangerous places... not a trek-like fin :-)

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Old 22-02-08, 09:17 AM
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Yep, thats the downpart... but I think its still worth a try. One player in the team wearing them might prove more worth, than trouble. Then again it might be just a disadvantage and nothing else..., also I had in mind only a monofin for short distances, re-made to be without dangerous places... not a trek-like fin :-)
If you want to give it a try, I'd suggest buying a cheap Waterway model 2 or 3 in medium or hard stiffness, then vulcanising rubber over the top. It'll give you an idea of how effective the plan is, then you can modify from there.
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removing a players ability to compete in normal play (his turning will be horrible) so that he can swim fast in a straight line is more of a disadvantage then an advantage to the team i'd say
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I'm guessing you've never tried it. A team can play with 5 fairly easy. Look how many times teams hold off 2-minute penalties even on the World level. Sure it wears them down a bit, but if you have the occassional 6th man in there to break away and allow for a line change or breaks, it could prove to be advantageous. And nothing gets as frustrating as knocking on the door for a minute or two only to see them break out and make a long run on you. And even if they don't score it is a bit demoralizing to have to regroup and work it back up the pool. Now, I'm not saying I would want to play that game, but it could work.
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