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Old 29-03-07, 05:08 AM
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What do you call that move?

So I’ve had a question on my mind for quite a while, about hockey vocabulary. It came to my mind in parts, when some of our (US players) looked bewildered and confused when we were speaking about team/individual skills and they were unfamiliar with the jargon we used for moves.

Then in Sheffield the 247.tv guy was asking about some of these things to improve his commentary and I was trying to explain to him, with limited knowledge, the same move/movement has different names in different parts of the world. Some I do know.
US = End Around / AUS = Switch
US,CAN = Deek / SA, NZ, OZ = Dummy

So the question is what are some of the terms used for moves, individual or team, and how did they originate, and are there differences for different regions of the same Country?

In the US and CAN many of the terms, ie Deek, were taken from Ice Hockey, some borrowed from Basketball or American Football.
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we use dummy in nz, yes.

i've also heard it called swerve.

originates most likely from a move in rugby where you fake a pass to put the opposition off balance and then sidestep or run straight, dummy pass or fake pass. in the french uwh manual i think they call it a fake pass. they call all sorts of things fake passes which have nothing to do with passing actually, maybe its the language barrier.

dummy terminology is a little flexible with regard to left and right handers. for example, if you have someone beat you by going around your glove into your weak spot where you can't tackle easily, you have been dummied.

but if you as a right hander swim up to anything or anyone in any position you can "pull a dummy" which is basically swerving slightly to your left (stick side) and accelerating.

the opposite of a dummy is a fade, going the other way, or to your right for a right hander.

so.... a right handed player can fade around a left handers glove, and the left hander would consider himself to have been dummied.

anyway. while a dummy is used as a strong attacking move in any situation as it is really strong and hard to stop, it's still associated here in nz with going round the glove of a player whose is handed the same as you, because in doing so you are going into his/her blindspot or vulnerable area.

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I suppose the similarity with those moves mentioned is that they are performed with the puck on the front of the stick (bat). What about the Push Pull (used either as a direction change or a "dummy/fake"), what other terminologies exist for that?

I think there are also many different terms for various swim sets - pull downs / drop downs, bounces, etc?

I know of one term that means various things across the world- when the US team roots on the pool deck it would sound somewhat like "U - S - A!! U - S - A!!", but it would sound quite different thing if the Aussies were rooting on the pool deck.
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what on earth is a push pull. sounds like something from dr doolittle.
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what on earth is a push pull. sounds like something from dr doolittle.
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PUSH PULL
A Fast movement to change direction, it is a small v movement on the puck, like a push then a pull to change the direction, you do it heaps,
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We normally call the push pull stuff a V, not to be confused with a push-me pull-you. Big V sometimes called a "deep V" or little V. Or a push pull type stick movement with just the wrist, where you move the stick back and forth over the puck without actually changing the direction of the puck would be a "tick-tack" or some pronounce "ticky-tack"
So a tick-tack then deek would be where you move your stick so the back side is in contact then back to freeze the defender then swerve around.

I like 'fade' for the right hander moving to the right side. We normally just say left deek / right deek, but it really is not the same movement. And 'deek' is normally all encompassing for that type of move, whether it is done with a deep V where the puck is brought down under the body before the "swerve" motion, or just the last second "swerve" motion that moves the puck the minimum distance to clear the defender.

What about some team terms? The initial strike? or moves off of the strike? Some locally call it a rush, are there other names for it out there? Do you have names for the set plays off of that?

Advantage pucks? kinda funny aside on that Francios Baton spends some time with our club (being in the Californa wine country) and we were talking about advantage pucks and he didn't know the english for what he was trying to say and just called it a free kick. Talking more many of the terms the french use are borrowed from Soccer, they don't say 'freee kick' that was just the closest translation he could come up with.
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thanks belle! haha. i think we refer to that as a tic-tac.

a "deep V" i'd guess would just be drawing an opposition before a dummy.

strikes are just strikes over here... free pucks are just free pucks, and we dont really have particular moves off the strikes. depending on the club, i guess small clubs might have their own... i know of a school team that named all their setplays and moves rude names. (i wasn't in it)

i know the french have a move called the barrier. thats a good name, and descriptive, hehehe

how about passing? flicking, shooting, passing, throwing.... pass, shot, flick, throw..... bat-down, knock-down, hit-down, slap-down, interception, catch....

how about when you pull the puck back next to your body and swim up the wall? we call that barging.
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Actually our 2002 team coined a lot of terms that we now use pretty regularly. Barging up the wall wtih the puck, particularly if you are going under the defense was coined as tunnerling and somehow evolved to buffaling (as in baffalo stampede) I guess, this is the first time Ive seen it in print not sure of the spelling.

I say flick now personally taken from our resident south africans and the SA skills video from some years ago. Mostly around the states its just pass or shot, I like flick better.

We normally use catch in terms of a foul, and bat-down or knock-down I guess.

hmmm. going to have to think of others.
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