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Old 26-02-07, 09:20 AM
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yeah i know someone who ran with a dieting theory of icecream and cold beer. i think the body had to use more energy to keep itself warm while digesting the cold food or something. i'm not sure of the details but it sounded like a beautiful theory.
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Ice Cream Diet

Yeah Liam, that's the basic idea. I was just looking for the ice cream diet details but can't find it. It is all based on pure science!
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That joke starts with this

As we all know, it takes 1 calorie to heat 1 gram of water 1 degree
centigrade. Translated into meaningful terms, this means that if you eat a
very cold dessert (generally consisting of water in large part), the
natural
processes which raise the consumed dessert to body temperature during the
digestive cycle literally sucks the calories out of the only available
source, your body fat.

For example, a dessert served and eaten at near 0 degrees C (32.2 degrees
F)
will, in a short time, be raised to the normal body temperature of 37
degrees C (98.6 degrees F). For each gram of dessert eaten, that process
takes approximately 37 calories as stated above. The average dessert
portion
is 6 oz, or 168 grams. Therefore, by operation of thermodynamic law, 6,216
calories (1 cal./gm/deg. x 37 deg. x 168 g) are extracted from body fat as
the dessert's temperature is normalized.


Then continues with drinking cold beer in a frosted glass, something about pizza, more beer followed by icecream...
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um thats more calories than i thought i was trying to eat in a day last year. is that right? i'm probably getting mixed up but i thought i was shooting for 4000 calories a day and it was real hard...

but anyway, seems an excessive amount of calories to burn from a little bit of cold.

however, i do remember eating a 2litre of icecream a little fast a couple of times, and the skin on my tummy going cold, and having to go to bed and curl up for half an hour to stop shivering. so cold stuff can certainly have a marked effect on the bodys systems in my experience.

go the ice-cream diet!
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And I'll bet that when you stopped shivering you went in to see if there was any ice cream left in the container?

I thought that the only reason to train so much was so that you can eat as much as you like and not give a s#*t? That's my theory anyway. And if it helps to play hockey better then that's a bonus.

I do tend to agree with Lena though on alllowing fitness to slip a bit, but not entirely, so that you can't rely on on your fitness to get you out of trouble. In turn then you have to play smarter and learn to be more effective with the decisions that you make on the bottom of the pool. Then when you do get fit again you have the added benefit of also being a smarter player.
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how many calories are taken IN when consuming 168g of icecream?
theory breaks down when sugars/fats in the icecream are converted to energy.

'snowfreeze' style icecream [emphasis on ice] is more water rich [is that a reliable concept?] than 'real/proper/kiwi' icecream - which probably has about as much milkfat and other diary industry nasties in it as butter.

liam probably doubled his body-fat ratio by eating 2.0l of tip top vanilla ice cream. it wasn't him consuming ice cream, that made him curl into a foetal ball, it was guilt consuming him.
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I think the best training you can do is playing as often as possible and in various positions, with various people. I've been playing back a bit (first time in 4 years of playing) and it's helped me learn where there are gaps in opposition backlines, and where I should go as a forward (coz thats where i want a person when I'm playing back). Therefore improving my game as a forward.

I think that thinking your fit is a big factor in performance, coz if you think you can't do it, then you never will. I've outswam people plenty of times coz I've just found that extra bit of speed and stamina by just not wanting to get beaten.
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Are you trying to say you don't need to be fit, you just have to think it?

Don't say things like that just to make yourself feel better for doing no training.....:P
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I do plenty of training for the level of fitness that I think I need to be at at this point in time (I'll do more as i try to increase it). I think you do need to be fit, but if you ignore the fact that your tired you can still perform as well, if not better in my experience, and then have a break at the next subbing opportunity and do it all over again next time.
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Tommy, Tommy, Tommy! Oh how much you still have to learn Padwon!

You are right to a certain degree in that determination is a great asset in hockey and one that is very hard to teach people. To have the psycological edge can take you a long way. Knowing that you'll never give up or feeling that you can beat any player is a big benefit.

I know a lot of people, normally at a club level, who always panic when they come up against a certain class of player (normally international reps). When asking them about it they say "I can never beat them, they are so much better than me". I've then tried to get them to not think who the opposition players are and that they are just 6 people. They are amazed when they finally get this in their head that they take this player on a beat them once and awhile.

Unfortunately if the body can't keep up with the mind you are in trouble. If you can get mind and body to the right level you'll see the results in your game.
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