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Old 09-05-07, 12:47 AM
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great to hear you are taking fotage of skills - is there any way of getting copies? We are always looking for new material to include in our training manuals or to make available to beginners.
I'm making it especialy for beginners. Or beginning clubs.
But yes when/if its ready i can sent it to you. (i writing it in dutch, is that a problem?) :wink:
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Old 09-05-07, 11:26 AM
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Dutch is not a problem - it'll be the pics/movies that I would be most interested in. I should be able to guess what the wording is anyway (referring back to Dutch being a mix of German, English and Danish - haha). I'll translate it and write an English version which I can send back to you. How's that for a deal!? Thanks
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Old 09-05-07, 06:32 PM
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Dutch is not a problem - it'll be the pics/movies that I would be most interested in. I should be able to guess what the wording is anyway (referring back to Dutch being a mix of German, English and Danish - haha). I'll translate it and write an English version which I can send back to you. How's that for a deal!? Thanks
When its ready i will let you now.
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Flickity dickity

I use a Dorsal i can flick mighty well and ive made no alterations to the design
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Only one way to master it... PRACTICE.

Many people can get a good (long & fast) flick going some of the time, fewer people can get it most of the time and very, very few can do it most of the time with accuracy and consistancy.

The only way to do this is practice, practice, practice. It really doesn't mattter what stick you use (I promise you can do it with just about any stick or even the handle of that stick in most cases) but what does matter is that it becomes part of your natural movement.
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Only one way to master it... PRACTICE.

Many people can get a good (long & fast) flick going some of the time, fewer people can get it most of the time and very, very few can do it most of the time with accuracy.
Indeed. I now some players that say they flick very good. Indeed they flick far . But when i ask them to flick trough a hole-bord/Shooting board they did even not hit the board itself.

The only way is training. But a good flick is also a accurat flick. If your flick is not accurate then you dont have a good flick.
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yeah thats very helpful if anyone happens to pull a board with a hole in it out of their togs in a game and threatens you with it. put the puck through that hole and whack him in the belly, that'll teach him.
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I started mucking around with skills at a very early age as my parents got me into the psort. I began with the real heavy pucks a lot and for a while it was frustrating and I could hardly move the thing. It would not lift nor did I have the wrist strength to propell it through the water. Then when I decided to start practising with the 'normal' pucks that NZ was using at the time all of a sudden I could flick quite well. It was as if I had been weight training. I guess it's just about the right technique and fast wrist movement. The faster you can rotate your hand then the higher the puck will go (but to some extent) then it becomes a case of rolling your hole shoulder into it and then eventually your entire upper body with the help of kicking your fins. Its all about timeing. Its a combination of a hole lot of things done at the same time. Ultimatly I would like to see someone one day be able to flick a puck so high that everyone just stops, gives up, and watches a puck fly from a good seven meters out from the goal and drop right in it. Surely if the puck is flicked 1.5 meters high by the time it comes down it would have gone a huge distance. Owel knowone really knows at this stage.. Being able to flick one meter high isn't good in a game situation. A high flick is not always good flick. I mean not unless you can throw the puck atleast 1.5 meters high anyway otherwise opposition players will be able to knock it down. The more time the puck has off the bottom of the pool, the more time players have to react and have a go at knocking this puck down to the ground. An accurate flick is far more efficient. Just look at some of the top players. For example Liam, Benson, Matt Hart even. These guys all have HUGE flicks but you very rarely see them use them. A lot of the time they don't even need to flick, but when they do they are simple just long and flat passes. These are the hardest kind to do. These come from wrist power and even better technique then being able to lift a puck high. Having a strong wrist means you are able to propel the puck extremely fast through the water except keeping it at a maximum of 300ml off the bottom. These are buy far the best passes. The quicker the puck travels, the less time opposition players have to react to the puck and before they know it, the puck has just traveled passed them and landed a good 4-5 meters away. Just ask Liam.
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Who gives a toss about flicking anyway? There's a big difference between a good flick and a good pass and personally I'm much keener on the later.

Flick: When the puck purposefully leaves your stick.
Pass: When the puck purposefully leaves your stick to be collected by a team-mate in a better position than you.

I posit that a shabby two foot spag throw subsequently beaten through the opposition onto a forwards stick is better than a 4-metre flick to nowhere that the opposition back scoops up and disappears with.

It's not about max height or max distance or even speed, it's about putting the puck in the right place at the right time, be that a subtle 25cm slide or a 5m monster, and like Kelly says consistency here is the key.
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