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Old 24-05-07, 09:17 PM
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In another discussion we found out that we want to discribe some skills and movements. So i start a new topic with my own repley in that topic. Please everybody. Discribe you own favorite skill/movement. So we can learn from eachother. Iff you think why not do a movement like this or can i do that. Please also ask. There will alway be one couche/player here that now it or want to try it. LETS INOVATE and share skills.

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the guys i'm coaching are very responsive to anything new, and you are obviously very enthusiastic about new skills in particular. do you have any footage or maybe you can describe in words or diagrams something new for me to try to learn and then teach to my guys?

Please no flaming here. If you dont agree with philosophies stated then say so, then put forward an intelligent critique. How you will do that.

Or maybe you 1 time want to do something but there happend another thing. That did work but you dont now why and how. Please share. There are always people that want to try it.

Which you want know Liam
1 person movement the tick tac in the air.
A movement for fast game where the opponent reacts also rapidly.

2 person movement
shooting through the puck without that the puck touches the ground.
(total control is nessesairy. When not done good it is dangeress)

3 and roll puck (a combination) shoot are possible you aimed the puck over an arm or stick whereupon the puck on speed keep rolling in the shot direction.

4. the 5 basis movements to obtain a puck from air.

5. How to do a dummy or a fack dummy

6 doing the V move With and without chanching the stick and the puck.

7.Pull the puck back and pass it under youself to another player

8.Pull the puck back and with a little roll movement get pass the oponnent.

9 flicking the puck away under you own shoulder (can be dangerous by the elbow you can give)

10. Passing/flicking the puck backwards.

11. Turn away with the puck.

12 roll with the puck

13. Playing 2 handed tic-tic

14 playing 2handed corner and wall

15 playing 2handed defending against 2 attackers.

16 playing 2 handed crap/shoot/shoot

17 impact move / interception.

18 turn the puck over the stick from the opponent.
(when you are both with the stick against the puck)

19 grap the puck away sideways (2 different styles)

And many more

It is difficult choose from a large offer of techniques. Perhaps also improve for this a separate wire to make. Under the denominator how you do a technique.

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As the games get faster, the time to do the fancy skills lessens; and the effectiveness goes with them.
Like Liam: Really?
I dont agree with that. Iff the game is chanching, so the skills are chanching.
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Old 24-05-07, 10:33 PM
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Lets begin simple
A basic well nown skill all arround the world.
But a basic skill dont mean that it is not important.
Sometimes it can be very helpfull or effective to use those basic skills
THese skill you see much on all levels.


9.flicking the puck away under you own shoulder (can be dangerous by the elbow you can give)


When doing this move. Please be aware were you oponents are. Iff they are behind your elbow it can been seen as giving an elbow to the oponent. It is not nessesairy to make the fist move in front off you. You can do it also when swimming and when you are turning. But the basic stays the same. And can be very effective. Also be aware wher your not playing hand is. ,it is easy to put that hand in the face of somebody or pushing somebody away. Thats also illigal.

Some other thing you dont have to shoot/flick the puck under your shoulder. When you see that they(your oponent) now that you are going to do that. Or your team mate isn't there. Dont shoot and go back with the puck to position 1. Then you have made a sort off dummy with the puck on the backside off your stick.
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Lets begin simple
A basic well nown skill all arround the world.
But a basic skill dont mean that it is not important.
Sometimes it can be very helpfull or effective to use those basic skills
THese skill you see much on all levels.


1 off my own favorites. (simpel but effective) Maybe becauce i shoot/flick harder and more distance this way then forwards.Or when defending to move the puck rapedly from the open side to the wallside so the puck is between me and the wall. IMPORTANT KEEP SWIMMING.

7.Pull the puck back and pass it under youself to another player



A different move then move 9.( in the beginning the same move.) The start is the same. Getting the puck under you playing shoulder. After that you turn the stick around the puck and you can move it sideways or shoot/flick it sideways. On the photo you see that the puck is trown/shoot/flick to the side. It is not always nessesairy to do. DO this only when there is a player from your own team.

Iff you are alone :
Then move the puck from shoulder to shoulder and then forward. By this you must turn your body to follow the puck in its movements. When you move after that the puck forwards you can sometimes trick the opponent and get pass him or her. (dont forget to swim when doing this. Keep moving is nessesairy to be succesfull)
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A basic well nown skill all arround the world.
But a basic skill dont mean that it is not important.
Sometimes it can be very helpfull or effective to use those basic skills
Also its sometimes usefull for the top rank players to remember those simpel basic moves.



19 STEALING THE PUCK SIDEWAYS FROM THE OPPONENT




A skill to be used against opponent players that swim in the same direction as yourself.
When you can reach out to the puck. Place the stick in front off the puck and move it sideways towards yourself.
Remember to play the puck first and not the stick first from the opponent. Thats illigal.
When you have the puck like photo then you can do whatever you wnat. Most times turn away from the opponent. so he can not steal the puck from you.

This skill can be used also in head to head confrontations. Then let the opponent think he can swim past you. Then place your stick in front off the puck en move it sideways to yourself. (dont do it to slow. When the opponent with the puck see it happen he can turn his stick so you can not move the puck sideways. And he or she can swim past you. Another thing he can do when you do it to slow. To flick the puck forward. Then your to late. Suprice and fast movement is the only way to succeed.
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i'm currently working on being able to play around with the puck midwater

ie catch the puck to my right, and then carry it over to my left still in mid water

not sure if it would be effective in a game or not - i havnt had the chance to try it
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Let the puck roll. A stranche way to move the puck and differcult to do.
How exactly is depending from what type puck you use and the model from your stick

But her with the phots the simplest way do do it.

ROLLING SHOT / FLICK FORWARD version 1
(this one will roll all the way. The other way is a small shot and then the roll)



At the first move it seems that you are getting ready for a huge shot whit the puck. Thats the point that you can suprice the opponent. By turning the wrist a little bit forwards and the handle and hand higher from the pool bothem you can let the puck roll . By moving your hand down and the stick upwards. and a little bit forwards.

Remember each stick and puck does need a little bit different movement. You can only learn it to try.

Another way to do it is a smal push and wrist shot to lift the puck past the arm or stick from the opponent. and were the puck after 1,5 meter roll further to the point you want. A push shot with roll is easy to point the puck in the direction you want.
(we dont have photos yet from these movement those follows.) Thats also the most incommen roll puck you see when somebody want to shoot/flick and the puck rolls away to the other end from the pool. But dont understant what happend.
(this is the most effective way to use a roll shot. Because it it a different way from a wrist shot the opponent can noit see it till you do it. And then i can be to late to react.)
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Todd, keep up the practise mate, it's worthwhile. Being able to move the puck in mid-water means essentially you can dummy people before the puck touches the bottom. Real useful if there's a back bearing down on the pass from your back. You want to be able to do it off any surface of your stick and in any direction so you're prepared for all situations.
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i'm currently working on being able to play around with the puck midwater

ie catch the puck to my right, and then carry it over to my left still in mid water

not sure if it would be effective in a game or not - i havent had the chance to try it
Like we have seen on that youtube movie? (freestyle)
If its effective? i dont now. We are useing some other form from that.(number 2 from the list)
We have some players that can shoot very high to midwater.
Most players waith to react and shoot the puck to the gool after its landed.

An effective but strance way is to push that shot in midwater to the gool.
(you dont have to catch the puck. Only to hit it in mid water. We will make in some weeks some picture from it. so you can see.)
So the defender is to late to react .
He or she is waithing for the puck on the ground. Or when its comming down to catch the puck.

For doing that you must be able to find the pease in yourself to react when needed.
And the skill to hit a puck in midwater. That is also easy to train.
A variant from that is number 1 from the list. The tick-tack in the air(midwater)
We will make some photos from that also.
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do you have any drills to work on it Benson? or any ideas?

at the moment i just sit on the bottom tossing the puck up to myself and try out different things, ill usually spend 20 minutes after my swim sessions playing around with the puck trying new stuff
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Yeah, but you need 2 people for it. There are 5 essential angles that I spend a lot of time training, think the Vetruvian Man with his arms outstretched, then think about the necessary maneouverability to take puck to the head (straight ahead), right hand, left hand, right knee, left knee. So, 5 different directions, each with a 72 degreeish difference.

Ok, so you and your partner drop to the bottom, facing each other, about 1.5-2m apart, 1 player has the puck and is allowed to throw it anywhere within reach of the other player.

Now, you're going to practise catching the puck and moving it in each of those 5 directions. Do each direction once and rotate through them, so you have a set direction you know you have to take the puck before it is thrown at you.

Each time your partner throws the puck at you, try and take it in mid-water and move it in the correct direction, ending with the puck in front of you and you swimming at full pace.

For example, if you know that it's the left knees turn and your partner throws the puck at your right shoulder, you would catch it mid-water (getting your stick behind the puck) and move the puck underneath you towards your left knee, continuing to push through until you were swimming at an angle of 216 degrees to your original position.

Hmm, did any of that make sense? I probably need pictures for this sort of thing.
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