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When I think about it, the puck takes a similar line during a normal flick too. We say to beginners that they should be pointing with the stick at the puck after they have flicked (to emphasise the importance of the puck being in contact with the stick along its whole length), but in reality the puck has a slightly different angle than the stick (ie the puck is more vertical than the stick). Do you agree? The puck leaves the end of the stick at top edge rather than the centre. If you were to draw a line of the contact point of the puck on the stick it would start in the middle and then gradually veer off towards the top corner.

Hence same argument regarding worn sticks. Having said that - what about those (often older) players that seem to be able to flick with very worn, rounded sticks?

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That is such an awesome flick - you make it look so easy! Is it a flick that you would do in a big game?

Could you stop by Sydney for some women's development on your way back from Turkey (never got chance to see your WDO "after class")? ;-)

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Maybe we are really stranche but we learn our players not to look to the puck when playing but to look were everybody is and feel the puck. But i like it when players most of the time look to the puck and there sticks. It so easy to take the puck from those players. They dont see you comming.

But indeed on the movie he lost contact in the second clip. That was wrong. But like you can see in the first movie clip it can be done without losing contact. And iff you learn to feel the puck on your stick you dont have to look were the puck is and come to action without delay. And the roll can be used to be done in the half time to turn then a normal turn.

I agree that the player is to far away from the bothem from the pool. But that is not always so. You can do that trun/roll and keep contact with your body and the pool bothem. And then the opponent can not see were the puck is gone. But the same is with a normal turn. Far to much players are to far away from the bothem and you can see were the puck is goining. That is not a simple thing only for this turn/roll. But for almost al sorts off moves. Always keep close to the bothem.

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Why ban a skill or move. Like you said yourself.
Some players pull it out when they have no other option.

A normal turn is more easy to do perfecly. I agree.
But has the same weak points. And is slower. And the game is still devolphing to be faster. So you must look to faster movements and maybe chanche them a little to be very effective.

And Like the Benson move. every move/skill has a weak point.
But that you must learn to players that use those moves also.

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I think it can be effective. But only when the opponents dont now how to catch a puck from midwater. Like more flicking movements the effectivitie is depending on the skills of the oponents.

A ghreat flick is some time a ghreat thing. It can help to win a match. But when your opponents now all 5 standard ways to catch a puck from midwater. A flick very high and big is not very effective anymore.(those big flicks are to slow, and as players you have therefore more reaction time))
A hard and fast lower whrits flick can be effective because it can suprice the opponent. Because you can do it on all times. The only thing you need is contact with the puck and in 0.2 second the puck is going to the point you want. In every direction.

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well i've passed to players before by flicking like that over myself and then over an opposition right behind me (like, only a couple of times to be fair), but i've never tried to go after the puck myself... maybe the opposition who turned you would get in the way? i'm not sure.

certainly it'd come in useful because when going over yourself you can keep more control of the puck and its harder for an opposition to stop than if you were to flick it under your bum like we've been talking about. dunno.

i'll post the whole clip in a jiff, it's just annoying the heck outta me how youtube destroys the picture quality so much, ive tried a few different formats and tried to do what they say but no cigar. ahwell.

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It is harder to stop because the opponent think you are goining to flick it under your bum. Suprice can help a lot during a game.

But if you do only this move the opponents nows it after 1 or 2 times and then you lose the puck. And then a flick under your bum is more effective.

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i will work on the underbum move.

man i want to BASH youtube, i have stuck it in the format it says and its still disgusting quality.

again, if anyone has any uploading pointers it'd be much appreciated. i have converted this clip to mpeg4 divx codec 30fps 320x240 just like youtube says to do....

ahwell, heres another clip.

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Are you as good at tossing pancakes as you are at tossing the puck liam?