Todd's shoulders.

The exercises you've mentioned Liam is what I was given - I think.

The first physio tried to give me exercises to just strengthen the rotator cuff; but that didn't do a lot. The 2nd physio said similar to what you have Carl, my pecs/front deltoid are a lot stronger then the back of my shoulder - so he gave me exercises to do with a theraband to strengthen the back of my shoulder.

But then in the rest of my training I was doing a lot of push ups, and pushing exercises - so I guess even though I was strenghtening the back of my shoulder; I was also strengthening the front, stopping the back from catching up.

I'll try out the workout and get back to you - I'm going to go to another physio as well and see what they have to say..

PS. I get clicking sometimes too Liam - mainly when I do Lat raises

Just out of curiosity Todd,

How much pusing work (chest) versus pulling work (back) do you do?
What & how often do you bench?

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I was doing push ups with my stair run, so about 70 3 times a week.

I was also doing some weight work with what we have at home, light weights high reps cause we don't have much of a variety.

Was doing 3 sets of 15 with 20kg bench press - I did gym work 3 times a week.

I would do tricep ext, bicep curl, lat raises, shoulder press, bench press, pec fly, push ups, tricep dips, dead lift.

Ok....

can you add rear delt raises to the Cleans I've asked you to as well please.

Abstain from bench, pecdeck,should press (was it free weight or machine? Behind the neck or front press?), push ups, dips & bicep curl (i think you may be doing these wrong & building the front delts with it)

The Clean & Jerk is (in order of movement) in one exercise;

Deadlift - front squat - clean (high upright row) - lunge - military press - tricep extension

thats only on the way up!
Coming down it's the same in reverse.

Sounds hard & it is.
But it'll pin point the problem & we'll go from there

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the shoulder press was free weight infront of the neck

do the same reps as clean and jerk for the rear delt raises?

Sorry Todd,

here's the how & why.
Please read carefully ;
http://www.leehayward.com/rear_delts.htm

Do after C & J
3 sets of 8-10 reps.
Slow 3 sec up, pause at the contraction, 2 sec down
Do no throw the weight up, slowly lift it.
Start light until you can feel the muscle move.

*Please - if it hurts stop immediately*

Todd, i don't know your body type but i can promise you this...
C&J willput on a load of extra muscle in a short time.
You're going to be so starving - you'll need to eat well (clean foods, not junk)

Remember to respect this exercise & execute it with perfect, safe form

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Not to worry Carl, I'd start with a broken broom handle and work up from there. Gotta get the technique right. Wax on, wax off. Thank you Miagi.

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For the sake of this mini study, can anybody trying this program please keep us up to date with post wokout posts?

I'd like to know;
1. Workout details; weight , sets, reps
2. Rate the workout; easy, moderate,hard, extreme
3. discribe the recovery; no effect, fatigued, sore, very sore
4. the areas that you were sore in (eg, legs, lower back, shoulders etc)
5. how long it took to recover (in days)
6. percieved strength gains (eg, my back feels stronger after 3 workouts etc)
7. ease of movement (how well you executed the exercise)
8. mental attitude ; do feel excited, challenged, apprehensive, scared etc by the workout?
9. percieved mass gain; do you feel that you're adding muscle in any particular area?

If you are doing this program please be safe -there's no need for heroics. This is advice to one individual not the masses.
Please be consistant and complete the entire program.
Do not get sore, miss a workout, get back to it in a week etc etc. That won't be benefitial.

Be safe, have fun, get strong

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