anaerobic training

anyone got some good taining for anaerobic strenght

i have a few training sessions that i do but i could always do with more

cause i love them soooo much...NOT

thanks

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Do you mean weight training?

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ive been having sessions with a really good personal trainer for the last 6weeks or so... and for anaerobic we've been doing lots of work with kettlebell weights... hard work and seemingly quite effective...

Finally!
Something i know lots about

I gueas the best place to start with weight training, strenght training etc is to ask you not what you think you'd like to achieve.
But... what are your strength weaknesses?

For example:
weak kick
weak stroke weak flick
weak body stability etc etc.

Probably the some of the biggest mistakes that most sports specific athletes make are:

improper analysis of their personal physique
improper advice on your specific sport (UWH)
improper diet to support your goals
lack of commitment to improve their physicality

THE number one problem I've encountered with UWH athletes is the absurd belief that elite athletes (or any half serious weekend warrior for that matter)
don't need to weight train to improve their performance

If you can name one Olympic athlete that does not partake in some sort of supplemental strenght training...well I'll eat the nearest dumbell :lol:


So now that my rant is complete...

can you name your physical strenghts & weaknesses. Followed by your playing goals?

I'd love to help anyone in regards to weight training

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What UWH specific exercises would you suggest for the rotator cuff / shoulder?

I've had trouble with mine; and all the exercises I'm given are below shoulder level, which doesn't help a lot considering most movements in UWH are above shoulder level and at abstract angles..

todd,

by trouble do you mean an injury?
If so how severe? Did you require a surgery or medical attention?
So just in case... if it was an injury that required medical attention let us know the details and perhaps one of the resident Doctors here (there' a couple in this forum community)
will advise.

If not... read on.
(normal disclaimer of course, if you hurt yourself following this info then it's your own fault)

The most common cuase of rotator problems is simply over rotations. as in, you've done lots of strokes in your life & you've worn them out a bit.
UWH can be alittle different becuase of impact injury & of course Flicking (or improper flicking technique)

Let's say it's overuse:
well you can't turn back time. Overuse means that the shoulder is wearing a little thin inside.
You can strenghten the muscles surrounding the cuff but if you've got internal wera & tear they'll only help alittle.
If this is the case see your Doctor. You need it looked at. Please explain that you're an athlete that does want to continue or resume playing UWH.

If it's just weakness & not an injury situation:
Think about your movements in a game. What are your weak points? What hurts or fatigues quickly?
Now think about your own body?
Most players have one forearm bigger than the other. Their bat hand.
In my experience most also have one shoulder bigger than the other too.
And one side of the trapezius bigger etc.
So now we know your body.

Fact: balance aids strength. Our first mision is to balance each side of your body.
How: depends, can you detail your range of movement to me (can you lift your arms above your shoulder level?)

Fact: the deltoids are 3 small muscles forming the shoulder cap.
Problem: if your deltoids are too strong for your rotators you'll literally start pulling them apart (often seen in Bodybuilders changing to a Powerlifting style bench pressing)
Are your deltoids developed?

Fact: don't flick with your rotators, they're weak.
Problem: if your triceps (push), biceps (rotation), forearms (flick), deltoids (push), lat's (stroke), traps (stroke) are out of strenghth balance the weakest link in the chain will suffer.
Thats right Rotators again.

Before i detail suitable exercises can you look & think about your body. Let's try to figure out why those rotators are getting hammered first.
Then we can start to address particular exercises to help you

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I suffer on and off rotator pain from time to time. It is just a little niggle, but I have seen this escalate (Chookie and Lena) to something a little more serious.
It is generally set off for me by excessive lap swimming (I try to incorporate allot on non freestyle movements), launching into big flicks without warming up first and sometimes just getting shopping out of the car sets it off and even sleeping on my shoulder funny.
Carl has been my weight trainer for 5 years now. When I listen and so do he asks, weight training makes a huge difference to my game. Benefits to me are recovery during comp,( I mean if you do squats you know what pain is all about, your body learns to adapt to it so during comp you feel no fatigue of soreness in your legs) injury prevention, being physically stronger than openent and mentally knowing you have done the work is a huge pycolagical advantage to me.
Go the weights
Cheers
Belle

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I've been to a phsyio regarding the injury a few months back, and the diagnosis was from the 10 or so years of swimming training I did I've developed a loose shoulder joint.

Normal flicking, swerving, stealing all that sort of stuff is fine for me. If I try to do too big an inside flick with an outstretched arm this can cause pain, but I've been working on my technique to aid that.

It's more when the arm is put in awkward positions during play - under peoples bodies, inbetween other peoples arms all that sort of thing that my arm can get twisted - which results in 3 or 4 days of pain in the rotator cuff.

At the recent TT comp I had somebody drop their body on my outstretched arm and that has caused me a lot of pain, only in the rotator cuff though.

Any suggestions? Or is it time for another physio appointment..

Todd,

when you look at yourself side ways in a mirror (i know this will sound weird)
Does your anterior deltoid (the front one) seem bigger than the rear Deltoid?

Now looking from the front on view.
does you medial deltoid have good development (roundness to you shoulder cap)
how about your Trap's now? Do you have a thick looking neck/shoulder girdle? Or a thinner next/shoulder girdle?

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The anterior deltoid seems to be bigger then the rear, is there a definate sign to look for?

From the front, the medial deltoid has moderate development; shoulder cap has roundess but it's not buldging out lol.

I'd say the shoulder/neck girdle is thick.

Anything else you need to know?