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Old 03-05-07, 02:06 AM
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Playing 2 handed

When you are playing did you ever did think. To bad if I did play with my other hand I had that puck or did get past that other player. On different forums we did post the question about information about playing 2 handed. No or little response. People say they did try it but can not tell anything about it. But some did give a small picture off the stick they did try.

Basic the idee is the same as the stick that we have tested and designed. But still something different.
In the way how to chance the stick from hand to hand.And how it looks. After testing for 12 weeks with the relative good 2 handed stick ,for us the standard stick. We are now testing the new defender/midfield model.

What is your experience with playing 2 handed?

Some remarks:
1.Not everybody can play to handed. Most off the time only the left handed players can do it. They are used to do thing in a right handed world.
2.My teammates hate that stick. When I play single handed I’m to strong for them most off the times. When playing 2 handed they need 4 or more players to get the puck from me. But there happy that next year I will use it in competition.
3.Important. Playing 2 handed is not a given way to play. Only chance the stick from you best hand to the other when needed you must not chance for the chance from hand to hand.
4.Keep open minded about playing different. A little chance in technique and tactic(personally) is necessary.
5.Like all the information we did collect last 10 years everything will by written down. So no information will be lost. But sharing information is by that way far more easy.
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Old 03-05-07, 02:27 AM
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The picture out off UK, similair to the picture somebody from this site sent to me.



Photo of the 2handed standard

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yeah the sketch from the uk is basically what i've tried, and like the sketch i sent you.

as a general rule, i havent practised enough to be able to make any skills work effectively switching hands while in possession of the puck... well, apart from a simple inside flick and switch, which is fairly easy to visualise.

so its most handy to switch hands when for example you want to be able to dummy strongly in a certain direction, like maybe when the pucks close to the wall and you want to be able to dummy into the middle.

the hardest thing is actually playing long enough to develop enough strength in your weak arm to pass consistently and make strong tackles. also, cos your body is generally used to moving a certain way around you as you play right handed, for example, it takes a while for you to get accustomed to mirror imaging everything... easy to mirror image stuff like dummies, passes, curls and skills cos you are focusing on the puck, but often you body will do the wrong thing, throw the wrong knee up etc etc, and as a result you burn a lot more energy than you usually do in a gmae. so, well, for me, played left handed is WAY harder on my fitness than right handed, for all those reasons combined.

good for a project though, would be good to be able to just settle down for a few months with no comps or pressure and play only left handed. then maybe i'd know more... i've never spoken to anyone who has invested enough time into double handed play to really make it effective.
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Funny that the worst/interesting injury thread got bumped right at the same time this one is going, as i've only known one person to really make a big effort of playing with their off hand who wasn't injured.

I've known quite a few who played for a while due to hand/wrist/shoulder injuries, some of whom after not too long were playing nearly back to their original form, while many others went from a healthy A level to pure rookie. Personally I just decided to swim laps for a few weeks after i was able to get in the pool following breaking my hand... my left hand was just worthless.

As far as switching back and forth seemlessly?? Even the guys I know that played well with their off hand had issues trying to use both hands in one game. I'm not sure the effort it would take to get good enough to be useful wouldn't be better spent on improving yourself with your strong hand. :wink:
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...yeah true, but sometimes you have to look around a fair bit to improve once you are maintaining the basics reasonably well! and we all get bored at times!

if double handed play was a car, it would be a good project car for the garage.
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...yeah true, but sometimes you have to look around a fair bit to improve once you are maintaining the basics reasonably well! and we all get bored at times!

if double handed play was a car, it would be a good project car for the garage.
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Is it legal to play with both hands?

They do it in Tennis, Cricket, come to think of it all bat sports allow you to play any hand and to a great advantage to play different shoots.

Those sketches are mad!

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There used to be an older player in Perth (Greg Barnes) who used to wear two gloves and swap hands to trick the defender. All the players (purists) used to winge and complain and tryied to find a reason why he shouldn't be allowed to do it but Greg persisted and amazingly enough, he would occasionally succeed in beating the defender (sometimes even Australian rep players!) by swapping the stick to his other hand.
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There used to be an older player in Perth (Greg Barnes) who used to wear two gloves and swap hands to trick the defender. All the players (purists) used to winge and complain and tryied to find a reason why he shouldn't be allowed to do it but Greg persisted and amazingly enough, he would occasionally succeed in beating the defender (sometimes even Australian rep players!) by swapping the stick to his other hand.
You can play like that and it is legal.
This was the first thing we did look for.
But you need protection on both hands.

But this remarks from Lena are good.
Indeed you can trick the other players.
@Lena do you now how his stick looks like?
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Trust you Sven to immediately want to know the details! :-)

Yes, it's legal now, but back then we were able to say his trick was illegal because the rules said that you can only wear one glove, but that rule changed later.

I can't remember what his stick looked like, but most players of that vintage just had a plain wide stick, nearly Y-shaped (symmetric), hence was ideal for swapping hands.
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