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Old 09-01-08, 07:13 AM
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1- i thought the 2 team thing was sorted too... someone posted to clear this up months ago. it was said that the second teams would play their own comp, possibly at another venue, and so would not impact on the playing schedule at all... i assume would be available for warmup games? but only 1 team would be in the actual WC comp per country.

2- scarface is right about kids needing to see the adults play... we see too little footage of hockey being played at high level anyway.

3- and vests.... why bother sizing, surely it's simple? just make them all XXXXL, and one L for simon. haha! ah, jokes, jokes...
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ok ok i'm in a grumpy mood this morning i admit it

BUT i think that if sport is for ATHLETES then restricting all grades to individual sexes is a better way to encourage growth in all divisions
if you don't like a rule, then put in a rule change .............
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$25 US???
crazy, you can go to any decathlon store in europe and buy a rash vest off the shelf for about 10 or 15 euros
just order 100 at a time and distribute to refs who are at competition
and what is 15 E in US$? $22 USD + $3 to put your name on **** and it's a push
and where do we get 1500 E/$2200 USD to buy 100? If we bot 100 from Body Bagz, I'm sure they'd give us a deal.
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and what is 15 E in US$? $22 USD + $3 to put your name on **** and it's a push
and where do we get 1500 E/$2200 USD to buy 100? If we bot 100 from Body Bagz, I'm sure they'd give us a deal.
i assume you would get the money from the same place you will be getting the $2500 USD from to buy from body bagz
deal in a currency that has some stability and international value.

why do you need to print 'referee' and personalize every vest? i think the vest clearly identifies the individual as an official. save 3/25 % of costs right there.
and whilst i'm having a ranting sort of day: why black togs [swimsuits] for refs? sure, black is a slimming colour, but i can tell you from grim personal experience it has it limits. i think many refs are beyond those limits.
how about refs wearing red togs to match their caps?

dammit i don't have time to submit all the rule changes i want to make to order this planet to my satisfaction. i'm just gonna build an evil genius super-weapon and send my demands direct to the UN.
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i assume you would get the money from the same place you will be getting the $2500 USD from to buy from body bagz
deal in a currency that has some stability and international value.

why do you need to print 'referee' and personalize every vest? i think the vest clearly identifies the individual as an official. save 3/25 % of costs right there.
and whilst i'm having a ranting sort of day: why black togs [swimsuits] for refs? sure, black is a slimming colour, but i can tell you from grim personal experience it has it limits. i think many refs are beyond those limits.
how about refs wearing red togs to match their caps?

dammit i don't have time to submit all the rule changes i want to make to order this planet to my satisfaction. i'm just gonna build an evil genius super-weapon and send my demands direct to the UN.

let's see: the refs are each buying their own vests; they will pay when they receive their vests or maybe their country will ante up, but I am paying for initial investment. We are not buying 100 vests - more like 30 to begin with.

referees going to Durban chose black - basic, simple, most already have one and it is not a country color - not to say some countries do not have black in their national colors, but no country has solid black only.

no time to fix rules? too much trouble? guess it's not that important
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Will you be providing the rash vests for free to all refs at Durban?
If they don't read this forum (or any others) how do they go about ordering?
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Although this rash vest discussion is extremely fascinating, I don't think players will really be loosing sleep over the fact the refs don't have matching uniforms.
The importance is to have good refs, what they will be wearing is secondary.
Of course they should agree upon colors of caps and shirts, but color of trousers, printed names etc, is in my opinion not a priority.
It is more important to set up teaching facilities to increase the numbers of good refs for the future. What better place to learn than the worlds. Even when just by looking from the side line.
If refs want to pay for a pretty vest with their name on it, no problem, but I wouldn't be spending too much time on organizing that part of the competition. Especially when there is still a lot of work on building the foundations of WAA.
Than again, different people different priorities.
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Although this rash vest discussion is extremely fascinating, I don't think players will really be loosing sleep over the fact the refs don't have matching uniforms.
The importance is to have good refs, what they will be wearing is secondary.
Of course they should agree upon colors of caps and shirts, but color of trousers, printed names etc, is in my opinion not a priority.
It is more important to set up teaching facilities to increase the numbers of good refs for the future. What better place to learn than the worlds. Even when just by looking from the side line.
If refs want to pay for a pretty vest with their name on it, no problem, but I wouldn't be spending too much time on organizing that part of the competition. Especially when there is still a lot of work on building the foundations of WAA.
Than again, different people different priorities.
One of the problems at recent WCs was comfort and wear ability and movement of refs. They want something that is snug, well fiting, no drag, not floatable, etc. Pretty is not a factor. but function is. Function facilitates good refing. Also players want refs to be different enough so they are not pasing the puck to the ref. All other sports have official ref attire. Obviously this is not important to you. So be it.
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Will you be providing the rash vests for free to all refs at Durban?
If they don't read this forum (or any others) how do they go about ordering?
there is a referees guild site wherein all world refs can keep up; they seem to read slightly better than players. How many refs I can personally support at Durban will depend, of course, on how many are there.
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...but no country has solid black only.
i guess you have never officiated in a test between NZ [playing with black sticks] and any other country playing with white.
if you had you might have noticed the NZ team wearing solid black.

Do you know a Mr. Bucknor from the West Indies?
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