worlds 2008

obviously there must be some mistake then, if carol doesn't know about it.

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so a non-BOA sanctioned team from GB will not be accepted at durban competition?

sorry if that reads as a double negative. hmmm let me try again.

scenario:
BOA/BUSA decides not to participate in Durban.
a group of well-skilled, well-trained GB women arrive in Durban and ask to register to play.
will WAA let them play [and/or call themselves the GB womens snorkle-battle-extreme team]?

...assuming WAA accepted their entry form and entry fee in the first place.

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I have seemed to have opened a whole can of worms here haven't I....

Dunky is probably the best person to give clarity on the British situation and as I am not fully clear on the whole situation.

Correct me if i'm wrong Dunky but basically as the BOA were planning to send teams to Durban, CMAS would ban the players from CMAS events (until end of 2009) and expel the British Octopush Association (BOA) and British Underwater Sports Association (BUSA) from CMAS.

I am unsure on what the BOA have decided to do but know that as Dunky is managing both the GB Mens Masters and GB Ladies Elite teams going to the South African WAA championships and has now resigned as BUSA President and as BOA National Squads Manager and as BOA GB Ladies Elite and GB Mens Masters Manager due to a conflict of interests.

I'm sure I haven't really answered anyone's questions there...do you have any more info on this Dunky??

Rach

[quote=Carol Rose;5781]In US we'd say that is evidence not in fact. What evidence is there that BOA and/or BUSA have withdrawn from participation in Durban? BOA has their AGN in mid January. Have I missed a message or official announcement?
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Keith has asked the BOA to decide upon whether or not they are leaving CMAS asap as the 19th of January is far too late

[quote=rach;5786]so there is no decision yet.

Each playing country is eligible to apply for membership in WAA. I sort of expected the same organizations as now exist, play and participate to apply to be WAA members as in USOA, CUGA, AUF, etc. But what each country does is theirs to decide. And I suppose it depends on what a country sees in the future.

Does the country want to go the the next CMAS Games - assuming the Games are held? and in what sports? Over the next few years, I expect USOA to be removed from the uw hockey commission, but if CMAS follows their current regs, it will take about 3-4 years. Anyone can read the relevelant rot regs as I posted them on another thread. There is a sequence which is not speedy - UNLESS CMAS goes outside their own regs which is very possible as they are very very unhappy.

USOA belongs to all CMASs3 committees; if and when we are removed from the Sports Committee, we still will be a member. And I really wonder if CMAS will start to removed federations from the Sports Committee who are members and active in Fin Swimming? CMAS needs numbers in fin swimming to move toward their Olympic goal, and many of the uw hockey feds also support fin swimming. Sort of hanging self on sour grape vine?

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Not to worry, I'm not bad with numerous nots and also humorous knots. And since it's my party, I will not let the Ladies of GB not be allowed to access the fun and festivities in Durban, not Istanbul. Not that I would not allow them to have fun in Instanbul too. Not only that, but what seems to be not found (lost) in most of these non-official translations of not official posts is that there are not rules as to what is not acceptable or what does not constitute a country to the not yet authorized and all-welcoming non-organized organization that has a name that is also not yet official and whatnot.

You see, as Carol has said there is not yet any bylaws, trilaws, or inlaws, but only a draft of some documents that are not recognized by anyone and may or may not make up the official papers of some not yet to be officially named future organization not yet officially in existence to oversee the not yet, but soon to be, Doug's Party Championships of the World (a name that I wholly own but would allow anyone to use at any time for any event). Assuming that is not incorrect, there is no one to determine what is or is not okay.

This is where I step in and start offering some positives instead of all the negatives. As anyone who has ever hosted a party of magnatude knows it is difficult to do yourself. Especially when you are thousands of miles and even more kilometers away from the party site. I think I will assign the organizing rights of my party to South Africa. Look to them to have some unofficial names for some unofficial organizations and unofficial games with an address to where you can send your OFFICIAL RSVP.

There, it's out now. It's official.

Duck
Assistant to the Vice-President of Fun, Club Fred International.

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Just in case you weren't sure, it's official -- CMAS sucks.
Oh yeah, and now they're broke.

btw, i think it's rank that all the official stuff for durban has aquachallenge all over it. its a crap name which EVERYONE hates and no-one had a say in deciding upon, and even a joke name like snorkel battle extreme has caught on more so than aquachallenge and been more fondly embraced by the community in general.

the name aquachallenge we were told was taken in order to avoid legal issues with cmas... well by now its obvious it has done stuff all in that department. what a huge steamy pile of rubbish fallen out of a cows backside.

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this went through i dont know how many fwds before i finally saw it... see below.




From: Charles Simms
Sent: Monday, 3 December 2007 1:58 a.m.

Subject: BOA and BUSA withdraws its intent to participate



Dear Piet,



The BOA is a CMAS affiliated organisation and will not knowingly take actions likely to result in expulsion from CMAS. Therefore it is with regret that I have to inform you that the BOA will not be able to submit teams to the WAA Aquachallenge World Championships and withdraws its intent to participate. The BOA had hoped that the proposal by the President of the CMAS Underwater Hockey Commission could have been accepted or an appropriate compromise negotiated.



Kind Regards



Charlie Simms BOA Chairman

Keith Dunkinson BUSA President

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Thanks for clearing that up liam...so are gb allowed to enter teams to durban without the support of the BOA or will we be rejected by the WAA?

Rach, since our women will not be sending a team I have 12 names of US players that you can buy for a small amount. Instead of being supported by BOA you will be supported by BAO, that's the Benedict Arnold Organization. You will still get to wear red, white and blue and as a added bonus our Team Theme will be based on one of our most beloved states, Hawaii. Welcome to America.

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Oh yeah, and now they're broke.