CMAS BOD Meeting Minutes

I have attached the latest minutes from the CMAS BOD meeting held on the 22nd of May ,2008.

There is some interesting reading in there if you can make sense of some of the poor English, you might like to have a look at points 4.3.3.4 or close to it as the numbers make no sense. It tells you about CMAS finishing the year in the red and it puts a figure on their loss.

Point 4.5 is also interesting as it says there was only one candidature received for the interim hockey commission president position, I can only speculate that there was only one candidature because I know as the president of the Australian federation I certainly never received any notification asking for candidates to be nominated

So I suppose your election is assured if no one knows about the vote for your position and no other candidates are actually called for, but this is not new how CMAS operate.

Lastly it is worth mentioning that Tony Mourad was nominated by his good friend Keith Dunkinson and I bet the BOA were never asked about this, and if BUSA is just a front organisation for CMAS as Keith would have us believe, then why are they nominating someone without the input of the main hockey body in GB.

And they wonder why we left? Just the usual CMAS covert operation and no mention of the games or of the no ban, and there has never been an official letter from CMAS stating there will be no ban.

Anyway read the inner workings of CMAS for yourself and draw your own conclusions.

Regards
GH

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Hey, something official with a signature and everything...

It makes sense now that they would consider taking 16 teams and approve a plan to not ban anyone. With the 15% increase in licenses they should be able to make a dent, although small, if they can get that many teams to show up.

As far as the English goes -- precarious financial equilibrium, suggesting extreme severity in the 2008 management, closed (2007) in red with € 38.028, there is worry that this situation may become worse for the management. -- all seems to be fairly clear.

I think the number you are looking for is "4.3" then below "2 book-keeping control" going to the 4th bullet after "3 It is necessary that CMAS acquires the ability in making profits because..." Does that make it more clear? What kind of system is that? Bullet points on some of it, numbers on others, all aligned with each other.

Wonder if this answers the question of who will go to Tunis in 2009? Could be no one if they don't have a working budget. I suppose they could move it earlier in the year so that the financials aren't done before the games happen. Not sure if the GA is always the same time of year but that would put it in or before May.

See you all, or at least some of you, in Colombia 2010

Duck

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Just in case you weren't sure, it's official -- CMAS sucks.
Oh yeah, and now they're broke.

Looking at the changes in membership I thought for a second that SA bailed completely. But they just restructered. Still they got out of nap, ori, and tir. I know nap, I try to take one everyday. I was surprised to see they got out of ori, although underwater origami isn't a sport anyway. And tir, haven't figured that one out yet but 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

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Just in case you weren't sure, it's official -- CMAS sucks.
Oh yeah, and now they're broke.

I believe nap is fin swimming (or nage avec palm)
ori is uw orienteering
tri is target shooting (tir surcible altho I am sure my spelling is wayyyyy off)

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Carol Rose

carol is right

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it's more polite on the grating than on the subs bench

According to the CMAS website, Australia is a 2008 dues paid member - of Sport and Tech Committees and hockey, fin and spearfishing commissions.

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Carol Rose

Attached are the minutes of the last BOD meeting,

A couple of interesting points appear. I note that elsewhere on this forum it has been said that there will be changes to the CMAS hockey rules, this may be true but it won’t be until 2010 as the BOD have accepted the 2005 CMAS hockey rules as current until 31-12-2010.

Also it looks as though I am off to the CMAS disciplinary commission again; it’s nice to know that I am in their thoughts because to be honest I have not wasted any of my energy thinking about them.

Once again they have accused me of something that I have not done; they have said that the WAA has applied to the GAISF for membership. This is not true as all I have done is write to the GAISF and ask them for a copy of their statutes.

But as we have seen before an accusation is all you need to have with CMAS, real proof in never needed because if it was it would show that there is no case to answer.

Anyway their elections are coming up early next year and we can only hope that the ilk of Dernier and Ferrero will disappear and CMAS will get some sanity back.
There such a fun bunch, if you’re interested have a read.

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Firstly, realize the document is the 'decisions taken.' CMAS does not publish BOD 'minutes' until approved at the subsequent meeting but they do publish the 'decisions taken' or motions passed fairly soon after the meeting at hand. BUT....

item 5.0 in total is confusing. From what is written, it would appear the EGA is postponed to be combined with the later scheduled GA in Thailand, but I know for certain the decision was reversed or nullified or whatever as the EGA will occur, as previously scheduled, in early January in Rome - according to Dr Dernier, Sec Genl. I don't know why they would publish a document without a disclaimer regarding the change. The document then goes on to say housing/accommodations are the responsibility of the participants.

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