So which is it? A suggestion or a done deal? If this is a suggestion that will be used temporarily in 2008 and an official name change to *maybe* something different AT that tournament or if it could change prior to that tournament, there is nothing i've read from Graham that suggests this. A lot of people who have been most vocal in this particular thread read Graham's words "done deal" So is it not a done deal?? might have saved a lot of *****in to hear that a bit ago.

Secondly, I know Duck hasn't done much for Oz hockey, but he's done quite a bit for the US, and has put in the time he can for INTERNATIONAL hockey as well, maybe you don't see him writing a nice post here that says "Wow WTD you could use my help what can I do" but you also don't see the effort and time he does apply to the sport.

Passionate people may ***** some, it is obvious you've got some passion here as well, that is all good, but when people ***** its usually for a reason.