Jeezes Deeperon,

WE KNOW they are incompetent. That is why we have to get our own people in.

Yes, there might not be many advantages about CMAS, but here are the advantages I see.

1. From a promotion/marketing/communication point of view, it is actually more interesting to work together with sports such as uwh-rugby, finswimming etc. In Belgium we positioned our federation as being the largest undwatersports federation with the largest offer and most members. It's like a company with a wide product range. Get some professionalism in the sport.

2. In countries that don't yet have an underwaterhockey team, it is easier to set one up. I have just moved to Sweden and setting up an underwaterhockey team here. You go to the local Swedish CMAS federation and get some help setting it up, instead of doing everything from scratch. One less step towards growth

3. As posted on the other thread, there are some countries that do get money for promotion etc, only because they are part of CMAS.

Yes, we know they are incompetent, but in that case, we can do two things. Either we finally start pushing all together (like Carol has been trying) and use the structure CMAS has, or we start everything up from scratch again, making us even smaller and more insignificant on an international level.

You keep talking about paying yourself. Well convince a couple of people to go to the annual meeting to show CMAS who we are. Or contribute in to getting the kiwis etc there so they can support us. I am willing to spend money on it.