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is there some kind of record for length of post i can enter with this one?
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The lenght of a postings say compleet nothing about how good it is. Sorry.
And the artikel off Benson was really longer....
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"And waterpolo is the closest related sport to underwaterhockey"
...hmmm, can't agree with you there sven
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Can i ask. Have you ever played waterpolo? I did and many off my players did. And like i told my club is a swimming club with many waterpolo teams even on top level. So in now were i talk about when i say waterpolo.
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- a shot at goal can come from anywhere
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So also by underwaterhockey only the distance are smaller. But a good shot can come from every position in every way.
Yes and no. Have you ever seen a game in real? then you see players swim underwater to get to another point without direct notification from the opponent. i think you can call that 3d. the opponent can come from below.
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- players can talk to each other or at least yell things
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The real comunication is not done by yelling. Much time its totally different then what they do. The mean thing is comunication whit sign. we use them also in our team.much is also done by simply looking were the game and were the players are.
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- players can see each other easily all the time (unless they're being dunked!)
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I can see underwater also. Is that not the reason why we have googles by uwh. I think by uwh you can even see beter each other then by waterpolo. By UWh you can see them under water and when you are on the suface and that give a good view over the compleet teams underwater. by waterpolo only when you are on the surface. and you cant see from above were everybody is exacly.
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well here i'll tell you my view and i'll try to give you some examples... a good formation (i think) is one in which
A- everyone in it knows their role in every situation (sounds simple)
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Thats tactic. Its in non zone positional play possible and in zone possition play. But that line is the basic for all tactics how good or bad they are it dont matter. Quote:
B- every role that is required of a given player is realistic and the players are physically able to carry out their roles to an acceptable standard in the environment of the tournament/games in which they will be competing
(ie, if part of someones role is to finish breakaway opportunities and you know every back on the team you're playing is faster than that someone... it's probably unrealistic)
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Maybe unrealistic for you. But if a slower person is the only one to break away. simpley because he can.(it can happen everywere on the playing field) Its not good iff then because its not his roll he does not do it. Please lett him break away. Break the game open. And the faster player can come after him to recieve the puck and go further or help him as long as possible. and 25 meter is not far to swim and that is the longest possible distance in a game to swim with a breakout. Most times in less distance. Quote:
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...thats it. it's up to you to decide what roles you need filled, depending on how you want to play... common ones are having players between the puck and the opponents goal... these are known as forward positions in most formations. players behind the puck are often called backs. players in the middle are called centers. players on the sides are called wings. or, not so based on the shape of the formation... players whose job is to get the puck are feeders and players who swim with the puck and make ground are runners, players covering for opposition breakouts are sweepers... whatever you want.
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Indeed whatever you want to call them. A player does not play better to call him defender or midfielder or what name more. A players played good when you let them play. And the formation does not say much about the tactick or iff you play in zones or not. Quote:
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obviously there are few limitations... you can try anything, but all your players need to know what they are trying to do, or you're not a team...
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Yes indeed but zone play or non zone play. Iff you train, the players now what to do. And trust is also a mean ingredient therefore, iff you are a team. Iff you dont trust each other you formation can be as good as you want but it will never work as good as you want. With no trust there is no team but a bunch off players that have the same colour cap and stick. I never said my team does not now what and were to do. Agian a good thing to tell but it is a thing that counts for all sorts of tacticks Quote:
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if you just wanted to know what other peoples ideas were for playing an effective formation, you could have just asked
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I did in my first posting
quote: You can read about most off the aspects from underwaterhockey here on this forum.
And most off the people that post something and want to discuss anything are top-rank players or were good players.
So I’m really surprised that there is still nothing about tactics out here.
What is the tactic the top off the world play with?
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without basically saying the whole uwh world apart from your wee club was using outdated tactics that are weak and inferior
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Will you ever react if i did not do that?
The first reaction tell more then you about the willingly from the topp to share
quote Benson: There's lots of new and interesting strategies.
But telling your opposition in depth how you play also teaches your opposition how to stop you.
Which is why not many of us care to expand...
Like you seen there was a reaction. But not telling how a simpley basic works
Iff you think i'm compleet wrong and the most off the world is not. Why not tell everybody all about tactics. As long as i and my teams can defaid our (same level) opponents i think my tactic is better. And you can easely tell me that every top-rank team ripps my teams appart. But they will do that also when we use your tactics. But that does not say much about your tactic but much about my'n tactic. that you must have a top-rank team to win from me and ripp me appart. Its a greath compliment for a sub-top team that compleet played for fun.(you can ask that on every team we played against.)
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and which your "fanatic" club team could beat easily ...careful sven, that "fanatic" name could stick!
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I never said that my team is fanatic. i did tell that my team is lazy and played for fun. Iff you calls that fanatic????I think compleet nobody that ever played against my team will take you seriusly anymore when you told them that the tilburg players are fanatic.... but you give them a very good time. But i did tell somewere that my players are technical players. And that is indeed so. A good skill and a working tactick prevent us to use to much energie..........And nobody on the classes we played can tell that they can win easly from those lazy/funny but skillfull players. But most off them can tell you that it were those lazy funny players that trown them out the first class were we played many years .
(even the team from TAN (barramoenda) we did trown out off that class, at that time without her, and that team(barramoenda) has help from top rank players simply in trying to beat us in a tactical way. and because its a club that is the top from the netherlands. But it did not happend and they lost from us! in 3 games we won 2 times so it was 2-1 for our tactic and it was pure tactic those games because they were faster and manuvereble but we were more skillfull. so the tactics was the turning point.)